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Monday, January 16, 2012

Tuberculosis in two U.S. elephant sanctuaries

My earlier blogs Can elephants suffer in sanctuaries, as an effect of volonteers opinions? and Can Sambo and other elephants transmit tuberculosis to people? has become even more actual after the death of Sabu (Look Chai) at Performing Animal Welfare Society / ARK 2000 (PAWS). Sabu was relocated to PAWS' ARK 2000 Sanctuary in September 2010, from Patricia Zerbinis Two Tails Ranch in Williston, Florida.

Sabu lived one year at PAWS. Sabu arrived a year ago PAWS, in Galt, northern California, and was euthanised there a week ago, 29 years old, officially because of severe arthritis. But 29 years is a very young age for an elephant to develop such a severe arthritis that he must be euthanised. 

PAWS wrote in their 2010 newsletter: Prince and Sabu, both retired performing elephants, are in good health so we expect them to be with us for a very long time. In this newsletter is also mentioned a very cool and rainy spring.



And Patricia Zerbini, owner of Two Tail Ranch in Willistone, Florida, where Sabu was housed by Ringling Brothers Barnum and Baileys Circus before his relocation to PAWS says: Sabu had no medical issues here, he was very sound and never showed any joint stiffness what so ever.

Sabu was here untill a year ago when he left to go to PAWS, He did belong and was here under the care of Ringling Bros. staff and veterinarians, but I saw him every day and in all the years he had been here I never saw any signs of arthritis, or other illness, he was a very healthy beautiful animal, the reason he was retired so young I was told is because he got too large to travel comfortably by train. I was here the day he was loaded and lended a hand with his loading, he in no way had any stiffness, soarness, or signs of problems with his joints, I would think that if he had any arthritis in him that would cause his collapse and death a year later he would have had to show some kind of signs while here at the ranch, I am not sure what happened to him while in the care of PAWS and I am sure we will never know but I do not in any way shape or form believe that arthritis was a factor in his death. Patricia Zerbini 2012-01-17

More elephants were euthanised at PAWS for the same reason, arthritis:
  • In April 2008, the 56 years old Asian female Winky (Winkie), arrived in August 2005.
  • In March  2005, the 39 years old Asian female Tinkerbelle, arrived in November 2004.
  • In September 2003, the 51 years old Asian female Tamara.
But nothing is mentioned about that Sabu suffered from Elephant TB (Mycobacterium tuberculosis).
At PAWS, Sabu joined Nicholas, PAWS' youngest bull elephant and half brother to Sabu, who arrived there in 2007 together with an Asian female Gypsie, from John Cuneos Hawthorn corporation. In January 2009, Gypsie was relocated to the other Asian females. PAWS writes on their website: Gypsy had provided security, safety and wisdom to him as long as she could. In the wild, he would be sent out to follow older bulls and learn the ritual that all elephants understand.We moved Gypsy down the hill to join the other Asian elephants where she's been given a much deserved rest and retirement after the daunting task of raising a young bull. Nicholas is now a neighbor to Prince and Sabu, PAWS two other bull elephants. (Source)

Which means that the Tuberculosis possibly was spread to previous kept elephants at PAWS.

The both bull elephants stables can be seen on this video:

Nicholas belonged to a group of Tuberculosis infected elephants from Hawthorn corporation in U.S.A. which needed to be translocated.  Most of the elephants were sent to two elephant sanctuaries In U.S.A.: The Elephant Sanctuary in Tennessee and Nicholas to  Performing Animal Welfare Society / ARK 2000 (PAWS).

The lengthy relocation effort began in March 2004 when APHIS settled a case with the Hawthorn Corporation for violating the Animal Welfare Act.  Under the terms of the consent decision and order, Hawthorn paid a $200,000 fine and agreed to donate the entire elephant herd to other facilities.  Although the decision was a regulatory accomplishment for AC, it quickly became a steep logistical challenge. Of the 18 elephants, 2 (Nic and Gypsy) went to the  PAWS facility, 1 went to an individual licensed exhibitor, 1 to the Endangered Ark Foundation, and 11 to the Elephant Sanctuary in Tennessee.  Unfortunately, four of the elephants covered under the order died prior to or shortly after being placed in their new homes. (Source)

People objected to the idea to mix TES elephants with documented Tuberculosis infected elephants. But the elephant sanctuary in Tennesee claimed they had a TB quarantene, and that the medical issues were monitured scientifically. Maybe they thought so, but it wa false...

A later report released by the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention says:
TB spread to eight employees, though three of them didn't work directly with the elephant, according to a report released Wednesday by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. The three worked in an administrative building next to an elephant barn at the refuge in Hohenwald, about 85 miles southwest of Nashville.
(Source)

Some elephant holdings, including PAWS Sanctuary, claim the have a TB protool and perform trunk washes. But trunk washes are extremely inacurate. In a TB outbreak in Sweden, five elephants were affected. Of 189 trunk wash samples collected, only 7 were positive from the 5 elephants that were confirmed (on postmortem) to be infected with TB (Moller 2005, Moller 2006, Lewerin 2005). Presently, the TB Rapid Test is the most accurate method to trace TB among captive elephants. Read more: Is the trunk wash an accurate diagnostic technique?Elephant tuberculosis FAQ by elephantcare.org
Sabu tested positive for TB (Tuberculosis) already in year 2000. Karl Cullen writes on his blog elephant dreaming: "Their three female Asians and one bull, Sabu, have all been exposed to the TB virus, which can be transferred elephant – human and vice versa, so when in contact with any of them we were required to wear face masks".

Peter Dickinson writes on his blog:
It is known that 'Sabu' had tested positive for TB in 2000 though there was no mention of this as a contributory factor in the death. In fact the TB has not been mentioned at all. This is both as odd as it is disturbing because it is a Animal Welfare Act regulation that 'all captive elephants in the US are periodically tested for TB...and that all of those having close contact are tested on an annual basis'.
So was 'Sabu' cured? Did he no longer have TB?

Were the councillors kept in the dark over the TB question? How open has this sanctuary been with its medical records? If it were an AZA approved collection (which it isn't) then these records would be available. It is to an approved AZA collection that the Toronto Zoo staff wanted to send the animals they loved and cared about. Now they have another nightmare of worry. (Link to the blog article

Pam Reid-Chevalier writes on Facebook:
The Animal and Plant Health Inspection Service is a U.S. govt regulating body that has specific legal requirements. According to page 21 of the APHIS manual on Guidelines for controlling TB in elephants PAWS was required by law to do TB testing before and after the euthanasia of Sabu:

"It is essential that a post-mortem examination be performed on all elephants that die. The examination must inc...lude a thorough search for lesions of tuberculosis regardless of exposure status. Prior to any planned euthanasia of an elephant, trunk washes, blood for serology and any other ancillary tests should be performed regardless of whether or not TB is suspected. In this way, valuable data can be gathered to evaluate the efficacy of the current testing protocol. In the event of a sudden death, collect post-mortem blood and separate serum for other tests. "

There has to be records somewhere so I think that PAWS should publicly release the results of these tests in order to answer the questions that have been raised concerning the TB status of its elephants.
 
Read more on U.S. Animal and Plant Health Inspection Service at Guidelines for the control of Tuberculosis in elephants

Animal rights activists main stream has claimed that Performing Animal Welfare Society / ARK 2000 (PAWS) is the only suitable place for the3 african elephants at Toronto Zoo in Canada. Thousands of people have signed petitions that Toronto elephants should be moved to PAWS, encouraged by, among other celebrities, Bob Parker. In the article  Bob Barker Visit Could Sway Vote On Sending Toronto Elephants To Sanctuary is written: A visit from Bob Barker may have been the final push needed to convince Toronto officials the city's three elephants should be sent to a sanctuary in a warmer climate.

Neither the retired game show host or the journalists at The Canadian Pres, or Zoocheck Canada, or Toronto City councillors Michelle Berardinetti and Shelley Carrol, who claimed that another winter in Toronto Zoo could kill the Toronto elephants, seems to have bothered to look on a map, looking up the longitudes for Galt, where PAWS is located, and Toronto. Galt, situated in NORTH California, is not really tropical...  For anyone, not just interested in signing petitions, it may be interesting to learn about how the Golf Stream affects east coast, with warmer water, due to the coriolis power... further reading may suggest find out why corals grown on east coasts, and less at west coastsand why upwellings are more common on west coasts. Now, african elephants are less sensitive to cold. It may be noted that North Americas most succesful breeding operation of Asian elephants, is in Cambridge, Canada, only some kilometers south-west of Toronto...

It is not known if PAWS are following the The AZA 40 degrees F rule. It seems like the elephants can choose as to stay inside or outside: "
Last Thursday, as Detroit's elephants snaked their way across the Plains States in a semi-trailer truck, Derby shuffled out every two hours in a nightlong rainstorm to check on the three Asian elephants that had refused to come into the barn that night. With a 10,000-candle power spotlight, she verified their whereabouts while often wallowing in a pond that night and returned for another fitful 120 minutes of sleep. "If they go down, you've got about two hours to get them up before they suffocate" under their own weight, she explained. Earlier this year an elephant did go down. Tinkerbell, who had only been at Ark 2000 for four months after her transfer from the San Francisco Zoo, collapsed and had to be euthanized. (source)


I have worked with arthitis elephants, and although elephants are intelligent, they didnt really seem to have an intellectual attitude, as to understand what components may affect their arthritis legs.

I am highly sceptical, that any professinal manager would conifirm, that this sounds like a responsible way of keeping tropical animals. PAWS claim that they have an "elephant jacuzzi" and other therapy methods for arthritis elephants, but the text above gives an indication that in spite of expensive investments, allt this technique can not compensate lacking common sense. If this location would have been in Florida, the situation would have been different. But its northern California...

An article written three years ago says: Nicholas, PAWS Asian bull elephant, walked outside for a few moments, but he obviously preferred a heated floor and very warm water for drinking to the beautiful, but frigid conditions in his outdoor habitat. (Follow this Source and read about the snow falls in NORTHERN California)

Last year the snowfall was 2 feet deep in Galt. 
[EDIT: maybe this is wrong, maybe the snowfall was not two feet deep. I dont think it really matters for elephants how deep the snow is, what matters, is they shouldnt walk free in and out, on their own wish, under such circumstances.]
 


I have no reason to accuse PAWS for anything, and I realize that they are eager to take as many new elephants as possible to get more fundings. What I can not understand i why PAWS suddenly became the only appropriate place to relocate Toronto Zoos elephants to? And why not AZA member locations can not even be considered? This blog article is not a critic against PAWS, who for sure have to compete with other institutions, in order to get funds, so they can develop and buy even more land.


Its critical against people, who by political manipulation, stop to think themselves, and just keeps signing petitions, or taking council decisions, although thay lack most knowledge and background information needed, to engage in issues like where elephants should be located. 

Is it logical to only see a TB infected location holder, pretty up north in west coast north America, as the single only place where Torontos elephants should live, just because a retired showman want to pay the transport of the elephants, if they come there.


Is it because its called a Sanctuary? (Sanctuary = good, Zoo =bad?)

But can the defenition Sanctuary really be applied to a location holding with infected animals, carrying a chronic, lethal disease? Regardless of if they claim they have a TB quarantene? Is there, scientifically, an existing TB quarantene at PAWS and TES? It was claimed so before, but the present board of TES also alleges that the previous directors failed to implement infection control measures, which the sanctuary and regulators agreed to, that preceded several elephant caregivers' testing positive for tuberculosis. (Source from a blog, The Teneseean has, for some reason, removed the article from their online archive)

And should the elephant stables really be aplayground for children and youths?




 JULY 29, 2012: Le PeTiT CiRqUe'S HUMANITARIAN cirque company of kids visited the Performing Animal Welfare Society's Incredible 23,000 sq.ft sanctuary and learned about the incredible animals they are performing for at the AVALON THEATRE on Sept-30. Since all of our productions are humanitarian based, the youths learned about these animals and where they were rescued from

Did the youths and their parents also learned about the lethal zoonosis infection elephants from those stables are carrying?

As far as I can understand, a place with infected Tuberculosis animals, can not be defined as a sanctuary, since its not a safe place for healthy elephants. And Florida may actually be much warmer for the Toronto elephants...


Still PAWS directors does not understand why AZA want to send the elephants to warmer Florida, and they write on their website:
Some of the most renowned and respected scientists — Cynthia Moss, Joyce Poole, Winnie Kiiru, Keith Lindsay and Dr. Jane Goodall — have recommended the PAWS ARK 2000 sanctuary to Toronto Zoo as a retirement home for the three African elephants, Thika, Toka and Iringa. Why does AZA consider their years of experience as unimportant, and continue to threaten Toronto Zoo with the horrors of lack of accreditation? (Source)

So whats more important, the future health of the Toronto elephants, or the thousands of petition signers on Internet? Should decisions be made by experts, or by politicians, dependant on, and manipulated by, propaganda?

And who are experts by the way? 

And if the above mentioned "experts" really think its better to move healthy elephants to a Tuberculosis infected "sanctaury" on the somewhat colder north california coast,   rather than to a TB free AZA credited location in Florida, well we might ask ourselves, are really Cynthia Moss, Joyce Poole, Winnie Kiiru, Keith Lindsay and Dr. Jane Goodall that stupid, or is it possible their names were used by the welfare people according to the new "noble cause corruption" mentality?

Maybe, just maybe, Cynthia Moss, Joyce Poole, Winnie Kiiru, Keith Lindsay and Dr. Jane Goodall doesnt really think that healthy elephants should be infected with Tuberculosis?

You may actually ask them, because, they signed papers in order to convince us hat experts had analyzed the destiny of the healthy Toronto elephants, and the only place they recommend was a private location with Tuberculosis infected elephants, pretty much north in California.
 -Although Florida is warmer...

How odd it may sound, this was their decision. Or was it? Ask them!  

[EDIT]
2013-03-11: USDA to Consider Guidelines for the Control of Tuberculosis in Elephants
WASHINGTON, Dec. 28, 2012--The U.S. Department of Agriculture’s (USDA) Animal and Plant Health Inspection Service (APHIS) is taking public comments on the Agency’s intention to use the 2010 “Guidelines for the Control of Tuberculosis in Elephants,” issued by the United States Animal Health Association (USAHA), to assess whether or not USDA licensees are adhering to the Animal Welfare Act (AWA) regulations and providing their elephants with adequate veterinary care with respect to tuberculosis (TB), TB testing and elephant movement

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22 comments:

  1. Dan --

    "Patricia Zerbini, who housed Sabu at the Two Tail Ranch in Willistone, Florida, before his relocation to PAWS says: Sabu had no medical issues here, he was very sound and never showed any joint stiffness what so ever."

    Sabu's necropsy showed that he had arthritis so severe it would be expected to be found in an elephant almost twice his age.How How could Ms. Zerbini not detect any problems in the years he was under her care?

    Second, the fact that Sabu tested positive for tb in 2000 begs the question: Was he under Ms. Zerbini's care then and was he treated?

    Why do you criticize the sanctuaries so harshly without questioning the care the elephants received before they arrived there?

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    1. Can you show me that necropsy?

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    2. The main objective with this article is not critizising PAWS, it is to raise the question why PAWS is the only place on earth where activists want the Toronto elephants to stay.

      As you may know, theres a campaigne going on, where the founders of PAWS are part of. On their website they are also critizising different elephant institutions, and traditional concepts for elephant management.

      This makes it perfectly valid to question if they are the best facility on earth to receive the Toronto elephants.

      But like I said, contrary to the PAWS administration, who has begun to become almost as aggressive as TES was before, my objective is not to critizise, but to raise questions.

      I know this may be a problem for people who doesnt want open discussions about their favourite elephant locations, and who are used to be the attacker, not the defender.

      The question about Sabus management and treatment is relevant, I will look into this.

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    3. A nameless person wrote: necropsy showed that he had arthritis so severe it would be expected to be found in an elephant almost twice his age.How How could Ms. Zerbini not detect any problems in the years he was under her care?

      1. We dont know if such a necropsy protocol is existing, only that various Internet articles says this, but did they read that necropsy protocol?

      2. PAWS wrote in their 2010 newsletter: Prince and Sabu, both retired performing elephants, are in good health so we expect them to be with us for a very long time. In this newsletter is also mentioned a very cool and rainy spring.

      3. This means, according to Mrs Zerbini, he showed no severe arthritis symptoms in warm Florida, and on arrival in PAWS, according to PAWS own newsletter he didnt show severe arthiritis symptoms, PAWS use the words are in good health so we expect them to be with us for a very long time.

      4. Conclusion:
      A. either Sabu did not die because of severe arthiritis, and theres is another reason to his death, or
      B. The conditions at PAWS caused him a severe arthritis in only one year.

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  2. "Last year the snowfall was 2 feet deep in Galt." Huh? Which Galt? I assure you it wasn’t Galt, California. I drive through Galt and visit family there regularly and I assure you, there was never 2 feet of snow there. I doubt there was ever even 2 inches of snow in Galt, California. In fact, if it ever snowed in Galt, I doubt it was on the ground for very long before it melted. A mistake like that seriously makes me question the rest of your “facts.”

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  3. Wayne Jackson wrote me 9th November 2011:
    A friend of mine contacted me to let me know that a relative lives 10 miles away from the P.A.W.S. facility. It seems to be getting colder and there has been snow the last five years. Last year a snowfall was 2 feet deep. If you use the AZA 40 degrees F rule then there should be a lot of confinement inside a barn at PAWS. Yet the facility is promoted as a warm weather facility! It is not Florida or Southern California!!! It is Northern California.

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  4. once an animal has TB it will always be a carrier of it. Meaning it can under stress flare up at anytime. Further if PAWS and their open space and "hot tubs" are supposed to be the ultimate in treatment for these animals how come Sabu got worse so quickly? Do you think steep rolling hills and unregulated exercise is good for any animal or human suffering from arthritis? Healthy zoo elephants should not be kept in sanctuaries that house circus elephants plain and simple. Start a zoo sanctuary then. Where is this necropsy report and how can a partial necropsy be thorough enough to conclusively declare there was no TB? A necropsy done by their internal vet I might add with no outside vet or experts involved? If TB were made public PAWS would have lost the opportunity to receive the Toronto Ellies as Toronto City Council stated adamantly the animals would not go anywhere that had TB infected animals. So many people just believe with blind faith whatever these sanctuary people tell you because you think this some holier than thou endeavour. Its just people who wanted to be close to animals as private exotic animal owners do and the only ethical way to do this without being attacked by animal rights groups is to run a "sanctuary". Private owners even good ones are reamed by the public. It is ridiculous to simply "believe" everything you are told, its not God or a religion. These are living breathing animals, they live at MY zoo in MY city and I think WE are the ones who should have the say once and for all not a bunch of bleeding heart activists from another country looking to have something "great" written on their headstone one day, "she helped a couple of elephants".

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  5. furthermore the weather in Toronto has been brilliant this winter. Im tired of these activists spewing out the same rhetoric time and time again even the experts spew out "facts" that are twisted to support their beliefs and help get research grants and sell books and further careers........Get facts do research stop trying to argue a case with your emotions its irrational and its ignorant. These animals deserve this investigation. The USDA should halt all animal transfers until such time that it is proved there are no unreported cases of TB at the facility. Its not an attack on PAWS, the constant assumption that it is is an example of how uninformed and with any form of common sense of independent thought PAWS supporters are.

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  6. Two feet of snow at PAWS? PAWS is located in Galt, CA, and probably hasn't had a total of 2 feet of snow in the last 200 years.

    Shall we look at the facts? If you scroll down on this page --

    http://www.city-data.com/city/Galt-California.html

    you'll find charts on the average climate in Galt, including snowfall, which is the green line across the bottom of that chart; i.e., 0, if I'm reading it correctly.

    Dan -- It's fine to have a debate on the merits of PAWS or anyplace else but it should be based on facts, unless they are too threatening to you. It would be a better discussion if you and your commenters would do your research first. Otherwise, it's too easy to dismiss your arguments.

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  7. PAWS has 3 locations. The elephants are not located in Galt, which is in the San Joaquin Valley, and snow would rarely stay on the ground there, it is Zone 8. They are located at Ark 2000 in San Andreas, in the foothills of the Sierras, Zone 7, which occasionally has snow, not for long, and nothing like Canada - Toronto is in Zone 4 (US number system). An Asian elephant's natural habitat is zone 11 (average). Africa ranges Zones 7 to 13.

    You should not be looking at latitude. A better idea is given by plant zones which gives temperatures and are indicative of what an indigenous animal is genetically programmed to live in, especially the herbivores. Here is the link gotten off of the USDA site. Google for Thailand, India, Africa etc. https://www2.dicom.se/fuchsias/usdazones.html

    Please do better research.

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  8. Statement from Zoocheck on PAWS TB Protocol, especially as it pertains to Loxadonta there.

    https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=10150570086614588&id=118864269587

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  9. Still, if temperature and climate, is claimed to be an important issue, (although Canada has throughout the last 15 years the best captive elephant breeding result in north america) why are not all activists positive towards Florida? I guess everyone knew that Florida is warm, - you dont need to look on plant zones to realize that? Florida is warmer than north California, right?

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  10. Dan, I don't know where you heard your weather information regarding Galt, I can assure you that there was not 2 feet of snow there. There is no way. Even if it is considered "northern" California, it is not cold enough for snow. And, yes, you need to take into consideration the care these elaphants received before they arrived at PAWS...

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  11. Dan here is a link to the Weather Channel website in the United States that show you the average high and low temperatures in Galt by the month of the year. As you can see, there is no way they ever had 2 feet of snow on the ground.
    I really hesitate to trust the rest of your statements when I know you did not research this claim.

    http://www.weather.com/weather/wxclimatology/monthly/graph/95632

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  12. What I see on the picture with Nicholas is SNOW. It doesnt matter to me, in which "zone" the photo is pictured from, how many feet with snow there is etc. I think FLORIDA IS WARMER. I also make the statement that its irresponsible to let elephants walk in and out in cold, damp weather. I also dont think that the climate in Canada is more harmful for elephants than in Northern California. It all comes down to how you manage the elephants, and protects them from cold weather. In Cambridge, close to Toronto, is North Americas most productive location for Asian elephant breeding. I also make the statement that the world is round, the sun goes up an down, and that you are maikng those remarks as a part of a propaganda machine, its just politics. You may hesitate to trust me in any possible statement I do, Im not pretending to be god or a prophet or a priest. When an elephant dies, 29 years old, out of arhtritis, I dont need to research anything. Something is wrong with the place it was kept, when it died. Especially if the owner of that location praised the elephant health only 1,5 year before it died. Amen.

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  13. A 29 year old elephant being euthanized for arthritis is ENTIRELY too fishy to be swept under the rug. If that were the truth, the necropsy report should have been shared to all so that we could anticipate this kind of ailment in other young elephants and plan accordingly. Be that as it may, this sounds like a huge coverup for a TB infected establishment that wants to save face despite its claim to support the welfare of animals. Although I have only met Patricia one time, I can assure you that her attitude of dedication and expertise in the area of elephant care is top notch and her integrity is not to be questioned. As for PAWS, I have yet to meet a person from there or supporting it that could even describe daily routine care for an elephant much less administer it.

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  14. I am a gardener so i know about zones. Toronto is moderated by lake ontario and is zone 6. I have planted many zone 7 plants here with success. When i was in santa monica and beverley hills in 2010 on nov 25- dec3 , the temperature was in the 40's. That is southern ca. So im sure it dips to those temps often at paws.

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  15. I am criticizing PAWS.... The have no clue what they are doing with Elephants. They are part of the Global Federation of Animal Sanctuaries which is owned by the Humane Society of the United States and Big Cat Rescue. BCR has killed over 169 big cats and all of these facilities are the same, they bring in animals and take away animals from private owners to raise money and then find a reason to euthanize them when the money train runs out or to make room for the next heart tug story to make money. I just happen to have over 500 documents out of offices of some of these people and their 25 year plan to rid private owners and zoos of animals by the year 2025 is very disgusting. These people support total extinction and people need to learn the truth. This is such a corrupt agenda the USDA is even part of it. PAWS should be treating and testing for TB but is getting away with all of this because the are flying the flag of the GFAS and against private ownership so they get a free pass just like the rest, when in fact they are nothing but private owners who has gotten a non profit and found a way for the public to fund their dream hobby to make money. One week you hear them bitching there are too many tigers in America and a week later BCR is bringing in another tiger from Peru just to have a big story and make money. This is not about helping animals, this is about making millions off of the public telling lies about animals in captivity. I have copies of contracts where they are getting 1/4 million dollars from Ohio tax payers at a time to move animals from Ohio private owners to California private owners and they are getting away with murder. 3 people dead so far for this agenda and sooner or later it has to stop. They Take Elephants and move them to area's that Elephants should not even live. Lions they are putting in the snow, if any of this was about animals they would move them to climates where the animals could live a more comfortable life. But its not, pull up the owners and directors of these places home addresses and see what the value of their homes they live in are while the animals live in crap. You would be amazed. It's time to expose this agenda and its time the public wakes up to this mess and quit funding all of this.

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  17. I am criticizing PAWS.... The have no clue what they are doing with Elephants. They are part of the Global Federation of Animal Sanctuaries which is owned by the Humane Society of the United States and Big Cat Rescue. BCR has killed over 169 big cats and all of these facilities are the same, they bring in animals and take away animals from private owners to raise money and then find a reason to euthanize them when the money train runs out or to make room for the next heart tug story to make money. I just happen to have over 500 documents out of offices of some of these people and their 25 year plan to rid private owners and zoos of animals by the year 2025 is very disgusting. These people support total extinction and people need to learn the truth. This is such a corrupt agenda the USDA is even part of it. PAWS should be treating and testing for TB but is getting away with all of this because the are flying the flag of the GFAS and against private ownership so they get a free pass just like the rest, when in fact they are nothing but private owners who has gotten a non profit and found a way for the public to fund their dream hobby to make money. One week you hear them bitching there are too many tigers in America and a week later BCR is bringing in another tiger from Peru just to have a big story and make money. This is not about helping animals, this is about making millions off of the public telling lies about animals in captivity. I have copies of contracts where they are getting 1/4 million dollars from Ohio tax payers at a time to move animals from Ohio private owners to California private owners and they are getting away with murder. 3 people dead so far for this agenda and sooner or later it has to stop. They Take Elephants and move them to area's that Elephants should not even live. Lions they are putting in the snow, if any of this was about animals they would move them to climates where the animals could live a more comfortable life. But its not, pull up the owners and directors of these places home addresses and see what the value of their homes they live in are while the animals live in crap. You would be amazed. It's time to expose this agenda and its time the public wakes up to this mess and quit funding all of this.

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  18. I am criticizing PAWS.... The have no clue what they are doing with Elephants. They are part of the Global Federation of Animal Sanctuaries which is owned by the Humane Society of the United States and Big Cat Rescue. BCR has killed over 169 big cats and all of these facilities are the same, they bring in animals and take away animals from private owners to raise money and then find a reason to euthanize them when the money train runs out or to make room for the next heart tug story to make money. I just happen to have over 500 documents out of offices of some of these people and their 25 year plan to rid private owners and zoos of animals by the year 2025 is very disgusting. These people support total extinction and people need to learn the truth. This is such a corrupt agenda the USDA is even part of it. PAWS should be treating and testing for TB but is getting away with all of this because the are flying the flag of the GFAS and against private ownership so they get a free pass just like the rest, when in fact they are nothing but private owners who has gotten a non profit and found a way for the public to fund their dream hobby to make money. One week you hear them bitching there are too many tigers in America and a week later BCR is bringing in another tiger from Peru just to have a big story and make money. This is not about helping animals, this is about making millions off of the public telling lies about animals in captivity. I have copies of contracts where they are getting 1/4 million dollars from Ohio tax payers at a time to move animals from Ohio private owners to California private owners and they are getting away with murder. 3 people dead so far for this agenda and sooner or later it has to stop. They Take Elephants and move them to area's that Elephants should not even live. Lions they are putting in the snow, if any of this was about animals they would move them to climates where the animals could live a more comfortable life. But its not, pull up the owners and directors of these places home addresses and see what the value of their homes they live in are while the animals live in crap. You would be amazed. It's time to expose this agenda and its time the public wakes up to this mess and quit funding all of this.

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  19. Joe is right. PAWS is run by people so stupid they actually burned to death an elephant some years back. They put the elephant in a container, added straw to the floor and put in a heater. The heater was turned over and ignited the straw. Now that is totally stupid. Also, the owner of PAWS tried to sue people who went against a proposed California bill to prohibit ownership of exotic birds and animals. But, the bird and animal people prevailed and the law was killed. These people at PAWS are animal rights totally and want to take away all animals from humans.

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